Phil Cunliffe joins Emmet to talk about his opposition to the UK's sanctions against Russia, the politics of self-interest, what happened to the nation-state, and more.

Phil's piece on the sanctions: https://unherd.com/thepost/its-time-to-end-gas-sanctions-on-russia/

Phil's piece on ChatGPT: https://unherd.com/thepost/chatgpt-a-morbid-symptom-of-our-declining-universities/

Phil's Twitter: https://twitter.com/thephilippics

Bungacast: https://www.patreon.com/bungacast

Closing song: https://chatpile.bandcamp.com/album/gods-country