Sarah LeFebre and Chris VanHekken sit down and talk all things Enneagram 8.  We chat about the difference between being domineering and being assertive, the ways that leadership comes naturally to them, and why they are so passionate about lifting others up.

Plus...Sarah's husband Matt and I join in to talk about what it's like to love an Enneagram 8, what we've learned along the way, and how we've learned to create space for vulnerability.  You absolutely don't want to miss this episode. Check it out on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, jennvanhekken.com/podcast, or anywhere you get your favorite episodes.  Listen in today!

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