Where Pete and Karlo are joined by writer A.C. Wise to talk about Red Riding Hood, deep-fried cosmic horror and ghost ships in . . . spaaaace!

A.C. Wise's website:

http://www.acwise.net/

To Sail the Black:

http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/wise_11_20/

Catfish Lullaby:

https://www.brokeneyebooks.com/store/c25/Catfish-Lullaby#/

Intro: usual

Outro (from this): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1-xRk6llh4