Seeing that it’s only a one and half hour flight from Darwin to Dili – I thought it was about time to imagine Australia as a neighbour.

That’s why in my conversation with Ben Bland, Director of the Lowy Institute's Southeast Asia Project,  we look at how Australia is positioning itself in Southeast Asia, what this means in terms of foreign relations and the big question for this episode: how will Australia engage with South East Asia in 2031?

Featuring: Ben Bland. Host/Producer/Editing: Evan Wallace. Music: deliBass and mango_bone.