"...and the idea that this is a for fun thing and it's not hard work and we don't bust our asses is just absurb and I would really like this to stop being a trope that people who participate in this are weird or don't appreciate the value of a hard day's work."

Episode 13 I interview librarian, model, Ren Faire advocate and performer, Vida Muerta (https://www.facebook.com/Vidamuertacosplay/). The Gryffinmom, where while I try to dissect her brain she fought me back by trying to dissect mine!

Vicarious Identity and Alice in Muggleland are a labor of love that requires a lot of labor. Help me love you by supporting the patreaon at

http://www.patreon.com/vicariousmuggleland where this episode spawned some bonus footage to patreon subscribers only. 1 dollar gets your episodes early, but 5 gets you bonus content for this and Alice in Muggleland. I can be found at http://www.facebook.com/vicariousidentity and on twitter @VicariousID

Vida's Patreon is at:

https://www.patreon.com/VidaMuertaModel

Renaissance Entertainers Services and Crafters United http://www.rescufoundation.org

The Pacific Northwest Tree Octopus (and how it's a hoax)

https://zapatopi.net/treeoctopus/

Music: Jig of Slurs. Dublin Reel - Merry Blacksmith. The Mountain Road by Slainte via Creative Commons-Share Alike

Art: James Ruggerio