Success can be achieved quietly over time, but sometimes it doesn’t come without failure. With so many changes happening in society sometimes dealing with new issues is about making it up as you go. This final episode of Across the Board looks at how directors set the benchmark for success, but what it feels like when coming face-to-face with outright failure, including a legal perspective of the Main Zeal case that went to the Supreme Court in 2022.

Host: Kirsten Patterson and Sonia Yee

Producer: Sonia Yee

Sound engineer: Marc Chesterman

People: Dr Rod Carr, Steven Renata, Dr Smita Singh, Jonathan Forsey, Cameron McCulloch

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