In which Brodie-Ann and Fio speak with Mundanara Bayles, whose cultural heritage is connected to the Wonnarua and Bundjalung people on her mother's side and the Birri-Gubba and Gangalu on her father's side. She is the managing director and co-founder of BlackCard and the creator and wonder-woman of the Black Magic Woman podcast. In this podcast Mundanara speaks passionately and provocatively about the realities and histories of myriad Aboriginal nations and countries in this island continent, about truth-telling, accountability, activism, deaths in custody, and the future. https://www.theblackcard.com.au/ and https://www.buzzsprout.com/951562