In this episode C.P. and Matt discuss what we can to to be better people and build a better podcast for you all!

As a disclaimer, this show is in the interest of learning right alongside the listener! C.P. and Matt do not claim to be experts in the field; they are only endlessly curious!

A massive thank you or collaborators!

I Fight Dragons for the use of their song "A New Brain" in our intro!

Michael Wilber for their song "Sweat" in the background for our segment intros!

Supergold - for their use of the song "Antichrist" as our outro music!

All Things Rise And Mind -- ⁠https://linktr.ee/riseandmindpodcast⁠