In our second episode, we tackle ketchup. National Geographic calls it, “at once savory and sweet, with just the right amount of puckering twang.” I call it: yucky. But that doesn't stop me from chatting with my father-in-law Jon about it's fascinating history and many uses.

Plus: what gets a red wine stain out of clothes?

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