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episode two | nature, immunity, + covid-19
*content warning* all information in this episode is merely the opinion of this podcast and should not be taken strictly as medical advice. that said, everything we talk about comes from our deep curiosity for learning and understanding from all perspectives and we welcome your engagement on youtube, instagram, spotify, or anywhere else you may encounter us in the internet of things or real life. no topics or questions are off-limits in this space. we will not tolerate violent or hateful speech. thank you for listening!
intro song: "family" by makana
show notes/references:
farmer rishi instagram posts:
"natural immunity does not exist" https://bit.ly/3M1WUYw
"nature does not exist" https://bit.ly/3hpuWYt
natural immunity:
Subissi Lorenzo, Mulders Mick, Friede Martin, Van Kerkhove Maria, Perkins Mark. WHO Natural Immunity: Scientific Brief. May 10, 2021. WHO/2019-nCoV/Sci_Brief/Natural_immunity/2021.1
Sivan Gazit, et al. Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections. medRxiv 2021.08.24.21262415; doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415
on iatrogenesis:
Darchy B, Le Mière E, Figuérédo B, Bavoux E, Domart Y. Iatrogenic Diseases as a Reason for Admission to the Intensive Care Unit: Incidence, Causes, and Consequences. Arch Intern Med. 1999;159(1):71–78. doi:10.1001/archinte.159.1.71
Thomas May (2020) Unintended Effects, Iatrogenic Harms, and the Challenge of Population-Wide Vaccination Compliance, The American Journal of Bioethics, 20:9, 60-62, DOI: 10.1080/15265161.2020.1795542
Lefevre F, Feinglass J, Potts S, et al. Iatrogenic Complications in High-Risk, Elderly Patients. Arch Intern Med. 1992;152(10):2074–2080. doi:10.1001/archinte.1992.00400220090016
Lisa Soleymani Lehmann, Ann Louise Puopolo, Shimon Shaykevich, Troyen A. Brennan, Iatrogenic events resulting in intensive care admission: Frequency, cause, and disclosure to patients and institutions, The American Journal of Medicine, Volume 118, Issue 4, 2005, Pages 409-413, ISSN 0002-9343, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.amjmed.2005.01.012.
Fava GA, Rafanelli C. Iatrogenic Factors in Psychopathology. Psychother Psychosom. 2019;88(3):129-140. doi: 10.1159/000500151. Epub 2019 May 14. PMID: 31085917.
H.S. Hofmann, G. Rettig, J. Radke, H. Neef, R.E. Silber, Iatrogenic ruptures of the tracheobronchial tree, European Journal of Cardio-Thoracic Surgery, Volume 21, Issue 4, April 2002, Pages 649–652, https://doi.org/10.1016/S1010-7940(02)00037-4
pharma doctor payouts:
Owens, Caitlin. (2019, Oct., 18). Big pharma's giant promotional payouts to doctors. Axios. https://bit.ly/3svjgtX
Ornstein Charles, Weber Tracy, and Grochowski Ryann (2019, Oct., 17). Dollars for Doctors: We Found Over 700 Doctors Who Were Paid More Than A Million Dollars By Drug And Medical Device Companies. ProPublica. https://bit.ly/3pkrjaW
vaccine, pharma, revolving door:
"The CDC is actually a vaccine company" -Robert F. Kennedy, Jr (RT America, Jan. 2020). https://bit.ly/3taaosz
Darrow JJ, Avorn J, Kesselheim AS. FDA Approval and Regulation of Pharmaceuticals, 1983-2018. JAMA. 2020;323(2):164–176. doi:10.1001/jama.2019.20288
"The Danger of Regulatory Capture" (PolicyEd, Oct. 2018). https://bit.ly/3hk2Huk
"5 Biggest Vaccine Companies In The World" (InsiderMonkey, Jan. 2021). https://bit.ly/3tdu4vC
OWS fraud:
"New Analysis Reveals More Than $145 Million In Insider Profiteering At Government-Backed Drug Companies Since Launch Of Operation Warp Speed" (Accountable.US, Sept. 2020). https://bit.ly/3sofq5M
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By of common clay*content warning* all information in this episode is merely the opinion of this podcast and should not be taken strictly as medical advice. that said, everything we talk about comes from our deep curiosity for learning and understanding from all perspectives and we welcome your engagement on youtube, instagram, spotify, or anywhere else you may encounter us in the internet of things or real life. no topics or questions are off-limits in this space. we will not tolerate violent or hateful speech. thank you for listening!
intro song: "family" by makana
show notes/references:
farmer rishi instagram posts:
"natural immunity does not exist" https://bit.ly/3M1WUYw
"nature does not exist" https://bit.ly/3hpuWYt
natural immunity:
Subissi Lorenzo, Mulders Mick, Friede Martin, Van Kerkhove Maria, Perkins Mark. WHO Natural Immunity: Scientific Brief. May 10, 2021. WHO/2019-nCoV/Sci_Brief/Natural_immunity/2021.1
Sivan Gazit, et al. Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections. medRxiv 2021.08.24.21262415; doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415
on iatrogenesis:
Darchy B, Le Mière E, Figuérédo B, Bavoux E, Domart Y. Iatrogenic Diseases as a Reason for Admission to the Intensive Care Unit: Incidence, Causes, and Consequences. Arch Intern Med. 1999;159(1):71–78. doi:10.1001/archinte.159.1.71
Thomas May (2020) Unintended Effects, Iatrogenic Harms, and the Challenge of Population-Wide Vaccination Compliance, The American Journal of Bioethics, 20:9, 60-62, DOI: 10.1080/15265161.2020.1795542
Lefevre F, Feinglass J, Potts S, et al. Iatrogenic Complications in High-Risk, Elderly Patients. Arch Intern Med. 1992;152(10):2074–2080. doi:10.1001/archinte.1992.00400220090016
Lisa Soleymani Lehmann, Ann Louise Puopolo, Shimon Shaykevich, Troyen A. Brennan, Iatrogenic events resulting in intensive care admission: Frequency, cause, and disclosure to patients and institutions, The American Journal of Medicine, Volume 118, Issue 4, 2005, Pages 409-413, ISSN 0002-9343, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.amjmed.2005.01.012.
Fava GA, Rafanelli C. Iatrogenic Factors in Psychopathology. Psychother Psychosom. 2019;88(3):129-140. doi: 10.1159/000500151. Epub 2019 May 14. PMID: 31085917.
H.S. Hofmann, G. Rettig, J. Radke, H. Neef, R.E. Silber, Iatrogenic ruptures of the tracheobronchial tree, European Journal of Cardio-Thoracic Surgery, Volume 21, Issue 4, April 2002, Pages 649–652, https://doi.org/10.1016/S1010-7940(02)00037-4
pharma doctor payouts:
Owens, Caitlin. (2019, Oct., 18). Big pharma's giant promotional payouts to doctors. Axios. https://bit.ly/3svjgtX
Ornstein Charles, Weber Tracy, and Grochowski Ryann (2019, Oct., 17). Dollars for Doctors: We Found Over 700 Doctors Who Were Paid More Than A Million Dollars By Drug And Medical Device Companies. ProPublica. https://bit.ly/3pkrjaW
vaccine, pharma, revolving door:
"The CDC is actually a vaccine company" -Robert F. Kennedy, Jr (RT America, Jan. 2020). https://bit.ly/3taaosz
Darrow JJ, Avorn J, Kesselheim AS. FDA Approval and Regulation of Pharmaceuticals, 1983-2018. JAMA. 2020;323(2):164–176. doi:10.1001/jama.2019.20288
"The Danger of Regulatory Capture" (PolicyEd, Oct. 2018). https://bit.ly/3hk2Huk
"5 Biggest Vaccine Companies In The World" (InsiderMonkey, Jan. 2021). https://bit.ly/3tdu4vC
OWS fraud:
"New Analysis Reveals More Than $145 Million In Insider Profiteering At Government-Backed Drug Companies Since Launch Of Operation Warp Speed" (Accountable.US, Sept. 2020). https://bit.ly/3sofq5M