In our fifth episode, I talk with the Rev. Dr. Jason Deuman, Lead Pastor of Creekside Church in Lynnwood, Washington. Jason recently completed his Doctor of Ministry degree in Semiotics and Future Studies at Portland Seminary of George Fox University. His dissertation was entitled: "Using Comedy to Build Community in Local Churches: How Laughing Together Can Bring People Together." Join us for our conversation as we discuss comedy, story, and preaching.