In this episode, Clint Davis interviews Cole Westoff, a counselor specializing in addiction and trauma. Cole shares his personal journey and how a family tragedy led him to become a therapist. They discuss the definition of addiction, the moralization of certain substances, and the myths surrounding addiction. They also emphasize the importance of empathy and understanding in supporting individuals in recovery. In this conversation, Clint and Cole discuss addiction and the factors that contribute to it. They explore the role of genetics and environment in addiction, as well as the importance of choice and personal responsibility. They emphasize the need for community and support in the recovery process and highlight the significance of belief and faith in overcoming addiction. They also discuss the complexity of addiction and the need for a multifaceted approach to recovery. Overall, they provide insights and encouragement for those struggling with addiction and offer hope for transformation and healing.