In this episode, Joe and Michael engage in a deep discussion about immigration, focusing on a specific case of a woman who was deported after working in the U.S. for 30 years. They explore the complexities of the immigration system, the role of employers, and the economic implications of deportation. The conversation highlights the need for comprehensive immigration reform and the challenges faced by immigrants in assimilating into American society. Throughout the discussion, they emphasize the importance of addressing the root causes of immigration issues and finding viable solutions that benefit both immigrants and the economy.