In this episode, I have the delight to interview a friend, a co-author, and a remarkable business legend, Jeff Hoffman, who has been responsible for taking several companies from zero to multiple billions in valuation, and is an advisor the the president’s office on business and entrepreneurship.

Recently, the Dalai Lama told Jeff that if he wants to change the world, he should “Forget today’s leaders. Focus on the youth!” So, Jeff has been empowering youth worldwide to use their innovation to solve global problems.

Here, Jeff and I talk about wonder, the topic of a book we’re writing (albeit WAY too slowly)