Den and Kev can’t resist arguing over whether or not there is any computer security lessons to be learned from chess. Then Kev drops this week’s secret, “Don’t shift left!” in your secure software development life cycles. Then on a very special Throwback episode MFA/IoT/Product Security Rockstar Mark Stanislav gives us a first-hand peak into the seedy 90’s world of IRC software piracy.(Intro and Outro theme "Sun Rice" by Adubter, CCL: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/)