In this episode, we talk to Eric Kapitulik (Founder Of The Program)as we discuss his company, his book, and his time in the service.

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Written by: Dominic Lawson

Executive Producers: Dominic Lawson and Kenda Lawson

Music Credits:

**Show Theme**

Behind Closed Doors - Otis McDonald

**Break Theme**

Cielo - Huma-Huma