This Phone Call was recorded 7.3.25

A home appraisal has Mark's codependancy and anxiety flying high. Again Erica as she has been doing before she was a woman steps in and calms Mark down. We talk veggies and discover after 30 plus years Erica will eatr a salad...well lettuce. A top 10 list reminds Mark of being forced to eat veggies as a kid. And  we talk about  about the oldes rock stars still out on the raod and making nee music and they are as old as Keith Richards who has looked this old since he was 10.