He is one of the most important and influential members of the bitcoin world.

Founder and CEO of ShapeShift, Erik approaches the fiat-crypto battle with unwavering perseverance AND pragmatism.

We talk about a variety of topics, including:

After so much progress for bitcoin over the last 7 years, does Erik ever stop to smell the roses?

His bitcoin story. Meeting Roger Ver and Charlie Shrem back in the early days.

His recent run-in with an unethical hit piece on ShapeShift by the Wall Street Journal.

What fuels the MSM hatred towards bitcoin?

The ideal role the SEC should play in cryptocurrency regulation

Why Erik already cashed out of bitcoin a long time ago

Tips on being a contrarian thinker

ShapeShift's decision to do KYC/AML