Alex talks to theoretical cognitive scientist Dr Mark Changizi about why governments around the world has pursued a policy as destructive as lockdown with such determination and alacrity. In this wide-ranging interview, they discuss lockdown as a psychological phenomenon and compare is to other mass-hysterias that have taken public consciousness hostage. 

Dr Mark Changizi is a multi-disciplinary theorist who has worked in a number of different fields in a fascinating and career including cognition, physics, maths, neurobiology, answering questions as diverse as why we see illusions, why we like music and why we get pruny fingers in the rain.