On the show, we have talked a lot about books, and we have even had a few guests that wrote one. It has crossed our minds to write a book of our own a few times as well.

Today, we are roasting marshmallows with Wouter Lagerweij. Wouter is currently in the process of writing a book called: "A Product Owner's Guide to Escaping Legacy: how to get back in control and start delivering again". As a developer, manager, product owner, and as an Agile Coach working with people in all those roles, Wouter has been dealing with legacy for a large part of his life.

To make that happen Wouter uses the knowledge and skills gathered in over fifteen years of experience applying Agile processes and practices from XP, Scrum, Kanban, Lean and Systems Thinking.