ESPN Chicago's Pat the Designer joins Jim, Matt & Molly to talk the Packers vs Bears rivalry ahead of the first of two matchups in the next three weeks! They discuss Jordan Love vs Caleb Williams -- both this week and in the longterm --, and Matt meets Pat for the first time before asking if this year's rivalry matchup feels different for him as a Bears fan! Pat also gets into Chicago's new identity under Ben Johnson, what the Packers' coaching staff should attack on this Bears defense & what Jordan Love needs to do to win, and they discuss if a Bears win would put the pressure back on Matt LaFleur's hot seat!