There are thousands of treatment programs in America, and most have excellent alumni programs to enhance long-term recovery. But, what makes a good solid, alumnus program?

Leonard Bade is a person in long-term recovery and a board member emeritus of TPAS, the Treatment Professionals in Alumni Services. He shares some of the essentials of an empowering alumni program with RC2C host Neil Scott

Award-winning actress Julie Harris closes out the podcast with some words of wisdom about being in long-term recovery!