The podcast describes an investigation into the ethical implications of using digital twins in urban planning. The research aims to increase the social impact of this digital innovation by using large language models to create digital personas that can visualise the complexity of ethical issues. The research highlights the challenges associated with using digital twins and the need to promote constructive interpretation and dialogue in the planning process. The researchers argue that genAI can be a potential tool for empowering officials and stimulating the conversation about ethics in the city.