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(Ethically) cheat your way to $250M+ | Mikal Lewis, Product Exec. (Whole Foods, Nordstrom)

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Today, we’re talking with Mikal Lewis, a Digital Product Executive at Whole Foods who drove hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue over the course of his career.

In this episode, Mikal talks about:

  • Why you should absolutely (ethically) cheat to get outsized results for your product
  • His framework that drove a quarter of a billion dollars in additional revenue for Nordstrom’s online store
  • How to use four types of luck to optimize for opportunity
  • And, how to build a quiet portfolio so that you can choose your own career moves
    • Links

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikalfm/

    How Google Works by Eric Schmidt and Jonathan Rosenberg: https://www.amazon.com/How-Google-Works-Eric-Schmidt/dp/1455582328
    The Law of Shitty Clickthroughs by Andrew Chen: https://andrewchen.com/the-law-of-shitty-clickthroughs/
    Pretentiousness: Why it Matters by Dan Fox: https://www.amazon.com/Pretentiousness-Why-Matters-Dan-Fox/dp/156689428X

    Chapters

    00:00 Intro

    01:02 Learning Product from Windows to Whole Foods
    03:53 The Four Types of Luck by Eric Schmidt
    07:30 Applying Type Four Luck to Product
    16:53 Breaking into Product Management at Microsoft
    22:58 Transforming Nordstrom's Digital Product Experience
    34:23 Professional vs. Non-Professional Product Management
    37:06 Outro

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