“I've always loved lawyers. I know it's a weird thing to say!”

In this episode of Real Ambition, host Iolanthe Gabrie is joined by legal technology expert Chantal McNaught, PhD Candidate in Law and founder of the Fully Automated Luxury Lawyering newsletter. Together, Iolanthe and Chantal discuss the tension between law as a noble profession and law as a business, exploring how lawyers can embrace technology and business thinking without losing their professional values.

Chantal shares her research on ethics as a framework for structuring decisions when multiple values collide, how the right perspective can help firms cut through tech hype and choose tools that solve real problems, and how compliance can be an opportunity to demonstrate integrity and strong systems to clients. Chantal also contrasts the work-life balance and collegiality of New Zealand’s legal culture with Australia’s more demanding hours.

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