This episode contains discussions of racism.

Eugene is a writer and academic who has lived in Australia since he was eight years old. From his home in locked-down Melbourne, we had a conversation with Eugene about how migration, race and masculinity intersect – including feelings of Asian-Australian invisibility, and how rugby was both a personal passion and a pathway to a false promise of assimilation.

If our conversation with Eugene brings anything up for you, you can call Lifeline on 13 11 14. Also, racism in Australia can be reported – and one of the main ways to do so is through the Australian Human Rights Commission. Complaints can be made online or by ringing 1300 656 419 for more information.