As the EU builds up its global footprint, it’s crucial to avoid European naval gazing. Instead, Europe needs to engage partners around the world on their expectations and concerns about the EU’s activities and ambitions. That's why it's time for Europe to listen carefully and with curiosity!Episode 4 with Dr Togzhan Kassenova, a Washington, DC-based senior fellow at the Center for Policy Research, SUNY-Albany.Previously, she served on the UN secretary general’s Advisory Board on Disarmament Matters. Dr Kassénova is also the author of “Atomic Steppe: How Kazakhstan Gave Up the Bomb,” which was published by Stanford University Press earlier this year. “Europe Listens” is part of ECFR’s Re:shape Global Europe project, supported by Stiftung Mercator.

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