The Upwind Podcast

Eva Kaili on Principles & Resilience


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In this powerful conversation recorded in Greece, host Lily Dash sits down with Eva Kaili—former Vice President of the European Parliament, blockchain pioneer and one of Europe's most visionary voices on technology, sovereignty, and the future of democracy. From navigating the Cyprus banking crisis to championing AI legislation, Eva has spent over a decade at the intersection of policy, innovation, and global transformation. This is a deeply personal conversation about resilience, motherhood, principles, and what it takes to fight for change when the system resists.

This episode unpacks:
• Why Eva turned to blockchain during the Greece and Cyprus banking crises—when people lost their life savings overnight
• The philosophy of decentralization: restoring trust through technology, not institutions
• Why you can't innovate inside the box—and the brutal resistance trailblazers face
• How Europe's fragmented regulatory landscape is killing innovation—and why that's finally changing
• The wake-up call: why the US administration shift is forcing Europe to reclaim sovereignty
• The critical need for quantum-resistant encryption and digital sovereignty in an AI-powered world
• Why sandboxes take forever—and how that kills innovation before it starts
• The narrative problem: how innovators who self-regulate get targeted instead of supported
• How mission-driven investing and cross-border collaboration can solve global challenges
• The truth about motherhood and ambition: why becoming a mom made Eva 100 times stronger—not weaker
• Why women shouldn't wait: the myth that family disrupts career is a lie
• How principles become your compass through any storm
• The power of soft power: nurturing before running, emotional intelligence, and building resilience through community
• Eva's new frontier

Eva doesn't sugarcoat the journey, navigated public scrutiny as a young woman in tech and politics, and learned firsthand that "when you try to change the system, you feel the resistance grow." But she also knows that resilience is the ultimate skill—and every experience, no matter how brutal, builds it.

Her philosophy is clear: "If you have your principles in the right place, you have a compass to navigate through any storm." From working on AI legislation that requires deep fake identification and human oversight, to championing blockchain as a trust protocol for democracy, to ensuring Europe doesn't fall behind in the quantum computing and data center arms race—Eva is building the infrastructure for sovereignty, innovation, and freedom.

But perhaps most striking is her message to women: "Don't wait. Having a family doesn't disrupt your career, it makes you stronger. You don't have to choose one role. You can be a mother and achieve anything you want." Eva's daughter travels with her everywhere, learning, adapting, experiencing, proof that the narrative of sacrifice is outdated.

This conversation goes deep on what it takes to legislate the future, why Europe must wake up to the AI and quantum revolution, how collaboration across borders creates transformative impact, and why staying true to your principles is the only way to survive the storms of innovation and public life.

Eva also shares her transition from policy making —connecting missions, solving problems, and building bridges between traditional sectors and cutting edge investors. Her superpower? Seeing what others don't—and bringing the right people together to make it happen.

If you care about blockchain, AI sovereignty, European innovation, motherhood and ambition, or the future of democracy, this conversation is essential.

👉 What principles guide you through life's storms? How do you balance ambition and family?
Share your thoughts in the comments—your voice shapes the future we're building together.

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The Upwind PodcastBy Lily Dash