All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series.

This week's episode is hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), producer of CISO Series and Andy Ellis (@csoandy), partner, YL Ventures. Joining us is Shaun Marion, vp, CSO, Xcel Energy.

In this episode:

• Setting policy
• The hard thing about soft skills
• Never let a good crisis go to waste
• Avoiding the tarpit

Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Noma Security!

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