Dr. Jakob Billmayer is fascinated by the ordinary aspects of education – from classroom doors and furniture, through to students' school-bags and Jamie Oliver’s cook-books.

We talk about socio-materialism, Foucault’s historical accounts of school, and what can be learnt from paying attention to mundane ‘invisible’ objects that are otherwise easily overlooked.

Jakob is based at Malmö University - this interview took place at the 2023 NERA conference in Oslo.