In this episode, AJ talks to Sage Caces, who just recently won his IFBB pro carb at NPC Nationals. We dive deep into the mindset it took for Sage to put in the work required to build his physique up over the last 6 years to a pro worthy physique. Sage gives us contrasting stories from his previous attempt to win a pro card in 2022, with all the struggles and difficulties, to this most recent prep. We also talked about moving to Austin, Tx from California and the differences in each place. 

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