Theology Upstream Podcasts are a series of conversations hosted by two young(-ish) clergy, Rev. Ben and Rev. Chrissy, who are convinced that good theology still has something to say to people living their lives in the real world. With that conviction, Chrissy and Ben seek to read theological books and put their learnings into conversation with lived-experience. Preparing for our 2018-19 study, Awakening the Body, Chrissy and Ben are publishing a series of conversations on Kate Bowler’s best seller, Everything Happens for a Reason: and Other Lies I’ve Loved.In this third episode, Chrissy & Ben are talking about seasons of life and the irony (or seeming arbitrary nature) of suffering. Using Bowler’s vulnerable conversation about her fertility journey, this episode focuses on body problems, human limitations, and the reality that “blessings” may never come (or they may not look the way we imagined).