manuel arturo abreu and Jaleesa Johnston explore and compare notes about digital performance and Blackness, amorphousness and commitments to the ephemeral, and how they each deal with “untrustworthy archives” in their bodies and memories. They share experiences in navigating colonized art spaces and the ways that oversimplified receptions of their work impact their approaches. Both work fluidly among various mediums and disciplines and they discuss the ways that collaboration, Portland, and alternative art spaces have influenced their work.