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In this episode of This is HCD, Gerry Scullion sits down with Thea Snow, Director at the Center for Public Impact, to explore the powerful intersection of systems, imagination, and justice in reimagining government.

We dive into why imagination matters in government, how systems shape agency, and the role of design in justice and social cohesion. Thea shares practical stories from Australia, New Zealand, and beyond—covering topics like:

• The hidden connections that make systems work
• Why government is not just about doing but also about being
• How physical spaces and design decisions influence justice and community wellbeing

Links
linkedin.com/in/thea-snow?originalSubdomain=au

If you care about systems change, design, and creating governments that truly serve people—this conversation is for you.

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