Such a great Podcast with my friend Espionage.  Talks of Music,  family, and friendships. He and I have in common the fact we both seen how ugly life can get and yet we still pushing. Something is to be said for the people who get up and keep trying even when all seems hopeless. I hope you are as inspired  listen as I was Speaking with him    A Really Great person    

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