This week, whistleblower David Grusch revealed the existence of a secret US program to retrieve crashed alien spacecraft, and it goes back further than you’d think. In today’s episode, we tell you what he revealed, what it means in the context of the post-2019 alien disclosure program, and where all of this is headed.

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