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Everything's coming up Perna!

<h1>Doug &amp; Ben chat about life as performers &amp; educators, the performing arts, and its relevance to the world all while drinking beer.</h1>

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Doug & Ben chat about life as performers & educators, the performing arts, and its relevance to the world all while drinking beer.

Doug &amp; Ben chat about life as performers &amp; educators, the performing arts, and its relevance to the world all while drinking beer.

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