In episode #6 of Evolutionary.org Radio, host Trevor Kouritzin and Co host Steve Smi are joined by Devin, known on the Evolutionary.org boards as Bad Juju. Devin speaks about his background as a very overweight elementary school student and how that got him into lifting. Devin talks about his passion for football and the 20 years of experience he has playing at the collegiate level. Trevor, Steve and Devin then discuss the business of personal training, and Devin's experience competing in bodybuilding and powerlifting. The episode ends with Devin giving some great advice to aspiring personal trainers on how to make a successful living personal training and what certifications are needed.

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