I speak with Tom and Charlie about the transition to agility for the Corporate Internet Services group at Nationwide. George Dinwiddie, Sanjiv Augustine and I worked with them for most of 2008 to structure and implement an Agile Transition in the CIS Department. That transition was featured in a PM Network article and was part of a larger groundswell of agile activity at Nationwide. I very much enjoyed working wit them and I hope you will enjoy the podcast. -bob payne