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Resumes mean less than ever. Here's what top AI CEOs hire for instead.
Michael Cullen recruits executive teams for some of the fastest-moving AI companies in the world. We sat down in person at Kit Studios in New York City to get into how the exec hiring playbook has changed: why marketing should come earlier than you think, what happened after the forward-deployed engineer mania, why big-company leaders rarely translate to startups, and the overlooked signal he looks for on resumes. We also get practical about how he actually interviews, why he hires for decisiveness over perfection, and how to close a candidate who has five other offers.
00:00 Intro
00:41 Comic Con and why New York is a place to build
01:55 The Iron Man moment: AI is the suit, you're still the human
02:40 The exec who crushes the interview, then gets fired
03:12 Why you should hire marketing earlier
04:58 Copycat products: features collapse, story wins
06:07 The age of the generalist
07:32 Resumes vs mindset
08:31 What happened to forward-deployed engineers
12:37 The overlooked resume signal
13:35 Hire for slope, not experience
15:25 Big company to startup: who actually translates
17:18 Make a call: why 100 decisions beats 20
18:54 How he interviews: pick apart the narrative
20:01 How to close a candidate with five offers
22:31 Why you can't judge culture over Zoom
24:04 Back in the office, and the end of 996
25:35 Why build in New York
MICHAEL CULLEN
https://www.linkedin.com/in/cullenmm/
https://bleeckerstconsulting.com/
KEITH COWING
https://linkedin.com/in/keithcowing
https://keithcowing.com
EXECUTIVES UNPLUGGED
https://execs.tv
In today's world, how you show up is more important than ever.
Dre Baldwin started playing basketball at 14, came out of a Division III school and willed himself into a nine-year professional basketball career. He now brings the same discipline to executives and organizations. We talk about what makes great results repeatable, why leaders should measure execution and not just outcomes, and how reliability compounds into an advantage. We also get into Power Presence, Dre's approach to improving presence by removing noise, and why judgment and presence matter more as AI makes information and answers abundant.
Chapters00:00 Intro
00:33 The Execution Reliability Index
02:16 Film study and Lawrence Taylor breaking the script
05:23 How ERI works inside a company
07:06 What the first version got wrong
08:43 Reinventing from pro basketball to business
10:23 Exposure camps, VHS tapes, and 60 agents
12:20 Conviction when every answer is no
14:07 How basketball players led him to mindset
16:19 Unlearning brute force
18:46 Getting on the same side of the table
21:16 Power Presence
24:10 Consistency, not peak energy
25:44 The third day and the empty gym
29:28 Where discipline comes from
31:12 Ray Dalio and thinking three steps ahead
34:23 Coaching from game tape, not therapy
36:47 Kobe, Tracy McGrady, and coasting
39:47 Wrap-up
Dre Baldwin
https://www.linkedin.com/in/dreallday/
https://www.dreallday.com/
Executives Unplugged
https://execs.tv
Keith Cowing
https://keithcowing.com
https://linkedin.com/in/keithcowing
Teams don't swirl because they disagree, they swirl because nobody is empowered to end the debate and move.
Mahesh Guruswamy runs product, engineering, and customer support at Kajabi as a single-threaded leader, a model he picked up at Amazon and carried through Smartsheet and Kickstarter. His case is simple: when two peers share a decision and neither one can break the tie, the whole org waits for them to agree. We get into how he keeps genuine challenge in the room without giving anyone veto power, why he runs a business review every Wednesday, and exactly which decisions he keeps versus delegates. We also cover what it takes to get from your current model to an AI-native model when the change touches people's jobs and nobody volunteers to give up their turf.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
01:03 The case for a single-threaded leader
05:12 Healthy tension without veto power
06:53 The Wednesday business review
09:17 Turning meetings into context for AI
10:37 Recording everything by default
12:30 Change management when it touches people's jobs
14:18 How to tell if your exec team is too slow
16:27 Business leaders, not functional leaders
19:01 Anger, fear, and the decisions they cause
19:49 Underwriting risk instead of pushing it down
22:22 One-way doors and two-way doors
23:37 The readme that names who decides what
24:44 Calm but oddly ambitious
27:31 Weasel words
30:11 Pairing authority with accountability
32:34 Who owns pricing
35:39 One data layer for the whole exec team
37:39 Hiring outside the bubble
40:46 Wrap
MAHESH GURUSWAMY
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maheshguruswamy/
https://www.thesensiblemanager.com
https://www.amazon.com/How-Deliver-Bad-News-Away/dp/B0D7FHTTNN
KEITH COWING
https://linkedin.com/in/keithcowing
https://keithcowing.com
EXECUTIVES UNPLUGGED
https://execs.tv
The hardest part of an AI transformation has nothing to do with the tech. It's breaking the human silos and learning to manage your agents like employees.
Akshit Kandi has mentored over 100 startups and built agents inside Salesforce's Agentforce platform. Now, as CEO of SkySync, he helps companies deploy and manage AI agents. In this episode he walks through the four moves that separate the teams getting real returns from the 90% stuck experimenting. Along the way he unpacks a client that grew new business 300% with a single marketing agent, why fear drives the worst decisions in a transformation, and how to measure ROI with a master dashboard.
00:00 Intro: Akshit Kandi and SkySync
00:48 Why 90% of AI projects are stuck in a pilot
02:22 Manage AI agents like employees
03:45 Inside a 300% growth story
06:55 Why change management is the real bottleneck
09:30 Offense vs. defense: the exec mindset
12:26 The tech decisions behind a true 360° view
15:12 Governance before you scale: CISOs, GDPR, data residency
21:03 Codifying workflows and keeping humans in the loop
23:50 Where to start: internal agents first
26:52 Mining meeting transcripts and existing systems
29:42 ROI dashboards: token measuring, not maxing
30:13 Why Akshit’s building in NYC
Follow Akshit on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akandi6/
SkySync: https://www.skysync.nyc/
Follow Keith on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/keithcowing
Join Keith's Inner Circle: https://execs.tv
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I've spent the last year building AI agents and working with CEOs doing the same. Most of what I built, I threw out. Here are the 10 rules that survived.
I've been building agents across my coaching practice, content production, and business operations — and the biggest lesson is that the hard part isn't the AI. It's codifying what actually matters in your work and organizing it so agents can use it. In this episode, I break down 10 rules for building agents that are genuinely useful — from structuring your data and building context that compounds, to choosing the right model for the right job, mixing deterministic software with LLMs, and managing agents the way you'd manage a high-performing team. No hype, no theory — just what I've learned from doing it every day. If you've been curious about agents but haven't started yet, this is your playbook.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
00:44 Rule 1: Put All Your Data in One Place
02:00 Rule 2: Build Context That Compounds
03:28 Rule 3: Design for Rapidly Swapping Models
05:03 Rule 4: Use the Right Model for the Right Problem
06:55 Rule 5: Mix Deterministic Software with LLMs
08:21 Rule 6: Orchestrate Based on Frequency and Value
10:44 Rule 7: Keep Agents Narrowly Focused
12:04 Rule 8: Get Ready to Iterate
12:52 Rule 9: Managing Agents Is a New Skill
15:00 Rule 10: Half of What You Build Is Disposable
17:11 Your Next Steps: Just Start Building
Follow Keith Cowing on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/keithcowing
Join the Inner Circle: https://execs.tv
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Three top executive recruiters and Foursquare founder Dennis Crowley reveal why the candidate with the perfect resume is usually the wrong hire — and how to find the right one.
Most CEO-CPO relationships fail within the first 18 months and a lot of that pain starts with how the hire was made in the first place.
In this episode, I sat down with three of the best executive recruiters in the business — Chris Running, Jodi Jefferson, and Michael Cullen — plus Dennis Crowley, founder of Foursquare and Hopscotch Labs, to unpack the biggest mistakes founders and CEOs make when hiring their first VP of Product or CPO at Series A through Series C companies.
We cover: why many searches derail, the logo trap that seduces hiring managers into picking the wrong candidate, why you should look for trajectory over altitude, the management answer that's a complete red flag, how AI fluency is reshaping what "great" looks like in a product leader, and what it actually takes to close top talent in a market that's shifting fast.
Whether you're a founder about to make this hire or a product leader evaluating your next opportunity, this episode gives you the playbook from both sides of the table.
Chapters
01:13 Start With Why
03:10 Avoid Logo Trap
04:28 Real Search Example
07:50 Trajectory Not Altitude
08:48 Assess Judgment & Speed
10:52 Culture Fit Walkthrough
12:28 Management In Details
13:59 AI Native Leaders
17:15 Hiring With Conviction
19:23 Candidate Due Diligence
20:48 Align Expectations
23:19 Close The Candidate
25:13 The Market Shift
26:14 Five Takeaways
Find the guests on LinkedIn:
Jodi Jefferson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodijefferson/
Michael Cullen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cullenmm/
Chris Running: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-running-a94a8025/
Dennis Crowley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dpstyles/
What if AI made you more present, not more addicted?
Dennis Crowley (founder of Foursquare) shares field-tested lessons from 20+ years building in NYC, why he prefers NYC to SF, and the thesis behind Hopscotch Labs and Beebot: ambient, context-aware experiences designed to push you into the real world instead of into a feed. We also get tactical: notebooks, hiring, early-stage chaos, and how to stay in the game when you feel burned out.
Chapters(00:00) Intro — A founder’s field notes from NYC
(03:05) Why writing things down changes your brain
(09:10) “You fall to the level of your systems”
(14:45) From Dodgeball → Foursquare → Hopscotch Labs
(19:35) BeeBot — proactive, wearable AI and why it’s hard
(27:15) Hiring for uncertainty: side projects, skill, and resilience
(34:30) NYC tech evolution — capital, talent, and density
(41:10) How to battle burnout
Connect with Keith or DennisFollow Dennis Crowley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dpstyles/
Follow Dennis Crowley on Substack: https://teendrama.substack.com/
Hopscotch Labs: https://hopscotchlabs.co/
BeeBot: https://dens.medium.com/say-hello-to-dj-beebot-592cdc1f1704
Follow Keith Cowing on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/keithcowing
Join the Executives Unplugged Inner Circle for free coaching via email: https://execs.tv
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Over half of startup executive hires fail in the first 18 months and many in the first 30 days.
Executive hiring is a high-stakes gamble. One bad fit doesn't just cost money; it can derail your entire momentum and kill team morale. Yet, most companies are still playing a game of mutual selling that incentivizes flaunting and filtering over honesty and results.
Meghan Oliver decided to stop playing that game.
After stepping off the corporate hamster wheel to build her own business, she found a way to bypass the interview dance entirely. She joined a Series A healthcare company as a fractional product leader. No elongated interview process, just real problems to solve on day one.
What started as a 90-day experiment ended with Meghan rewriting the company’s product and operations playbook and stepping in as full-time COO.
In this episode, Meghan reveals her framework for how to wildly reduce the risk of a mis-hire and either close your next great executive or land your next great gig.
Chapter Markers:
00:00 — Why traditional executive hiring often fails
01:00 — Meghan’s path: burnout, sabbatical, and discovering fractional
03:20 — Starting fractional at RightMove Health as CPO
04:20 — Finding clarity in context, not just function
07:20 — What makes a fractional executive role actually work
10:50 — Evolving from fractional CPO to full-time COO
13:20 — Why combining product and ops cuts coordination tax
15:00 — The power of a 90-day “try before you buy”
15:40 — Navigating health insurance and benefits as fractional
18:40 — How the role shift felt seamless for the team
20:40 — Building conviction and quieting self-doubt
22:40 — Advice for CEOs and executives on fractional hires
26:20 — What’s happening at RightMove Health (and open roles)
Follow Meghan Oliver: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meghan-oliver/
Shoutouts
RightMove Health: https://rightmovehealth.com
Follow Keith Cowing on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/keithcowing
Join the Executives Unplugged Inner Circle: https://execs.tv
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Matt Blumberg reveals why he bans slides, forces independent directors to audition for a seat, and uses AI to simulate Steve Jobs in the boardroom.
For many founders, the board meeting is a dreaded time sink full of status updates and glazed eyes. In this episode Matt Blumberg, the CEO of Markup AI and author of Startup Boards, breaks down how to turn your board meetings into your ultimate strategy session. Matt shares the story of a "perfect" board candidate who failed a live audition, the "Rule of Ones" that will lead to an effective board composition, and why he strictly forbids slides during meetings.
He also reveals a new experiment: using AI agents to simulate a "Fantasy Board" meeting with personalities like Steve Jobs and Warren Buffett to stress-test decisions before the real directors show up.
Executives will come away with a playbook to stop reporting and start using their board to build the business.
Chapters00:00 — The No Slides Rule
02:04 — Turning the eye roll into strategy
03:20 — The Audition: Making directors do the work
06:58 — How to reference check your VCs
08:59 — The "Rule of Ones" for board composition
13:25 — Stop writing 50-page board decks
17:24 — Specific rules for better conversations
20:58 — Inside the Markup AI pivot
23:05 — The "Fantasy Board": Simulating Steve Jobs with AI
26:19 — How to fire a board member
28:17 — Why every CEO should sit on another board
Follow Matt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattblumberg/
Shoutouts
Startup Boards: https://www.amazon.com/Startup-Boards-Building-Effective-Directors/dp/111985928X
Markup AI: https://markup.ai
Fred Wilson: https://avc.xyz
Mike Collins: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-collins-362100/
Follow Keith Cowing on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/keithcowing
Join the Executives Unplugged inner circle: https://kc.coach
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Too many offsites miss the powerful opportunity to align a leadership team. Here’s how to make yours the exception.
In this episode, Kelly Dwyer, executive coach and facilitator, breaks down what separates transformational offsites from frustrating ones. She’s helped leadership teams at venture and PE-backed companies turn tense conversations into breakthroughs and knows exactly how to keep the “elephant in the room” from derailing trust.
Kelly and host Keith Cowing unpack a tactical playbook: how to prep the right way, design the space for honesty, navigate conflict, and make sure the alignment lasts.
Leaders will walk away knowing how to run an offsite that doesn’t just check a box, but changes how their team thinks, decides, and leads.
00:00 — Why offsites fail (and how to fix them)
02:10 — How prep work sets the tone
05:00 — The value of “having a sleep” between days
07:40 — The CEO’s role: set vision, not the agenda
10:50 — Creating meeting agreements that drive honesty
16:20 — The facilitator’s job: manage time and truth
18:50 — Handling conflict when the “fight” breaks out
22:30 — Tools for structure: parking lots, sticky notes, and timers
25:40 — Decision-making without consensus traps
28:20 — The “Fist to Five” tool for real alignment
30:20 — Ensuring follow-through and lasting impact
33:30 — Why offsites are the most powerful (and risky) meetings you’ll ever run
Follow Kelly Dwyer on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellydwyer/
Visit Kelly’s Website: https://kellydwyer.co
Listen to Kelly’s Podcast: https://www.lifefromwithin.com/
Follow Keith Cowing on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/keithcowing
Subscribe to Keith’s free coaching via email: https://kc.coach/
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Candid conversations with founders and execs about making critical decisions, building and aligning your team, and showing up at your best.
I’m Keith Cowing, an executive coach and founder.…