In this episode, Paul and Josh reflect on their early years - from struggling to focus at school, the use of exercise to enhance focus and mindset to then discovering a passion for hands-on work and the trades.

They talk about why the classroom never really worked for them, what pushed them towards practical careers, and how those early experiences shaped the way they work today. The conversation also touches on their move to Dubai and why so many people reach out to them asking about making the same decision.

An honest discussion about finding your own path, learning outside the classroom, and realising there’s more than one way to build a career.