In this episode, we hear from Dr. Patricia Fogelman, DNP, about being brought in to lead the palliative care program at Guthrie Clinic, a rural integrated health system located in north central Pennsylvania and upstate New York, serving 12 counties. We hear about the many ways she’s proving the value of palliative care by engaging within and outside of her institution, creatively finding solutions to showcase what high-quality palliative care looks, while overcoming limited resources. We also learn how the pandemic positioned her to accelerate her team's visibility, which allowed her to assume an institutional leadership role.