It's a paradox. Faith overtly offers us the chance to hear and live out promises from God. And then great saints (and, frankly, our friends whom we most trust) seem to suffer even more than normal people. Living in that paradox is at the heart of great spirituality. Join Dave Schmelzer as he tells vivid stories and learns from people like Catherine of Genoa and Father Richard Rohr and the so-called "father of three faiths," Abraham.

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Catherine of Genoa

Richard Rohr's book The Wisdom Pattern: Order, Disorder, Reorder

1 Thessalonians 5:16-18; Philippians 2:12-13