We’re back with another “Expert Talk” and I have two amazing guests today. 

The first, Derek Gehl, I’ve known for almost 20 years now. In fact, he was the president of the company that I bought my first ever marketing course from!

We also had the opportunity to speak with Stefan Ciancio - and entrepreneur who’s absolutely crushing it in the SasS space while living a “life on the road.”

I love these Expert Talks because we cover so much ground and I get such unique perspectives. This episode is the perfect example.

We went deep on everything from…

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