Join Shelly and Joanne as they delve into the complex interplay of grief, consciousness, and healing. In this episode, they discuss their personal journeys and how trauma can lead to enhanced spirituality and intuition. They reference influential thinkers like Thomas Campbell and Carl Jung, explore the role of psychedelics, and share experiences with meditation and accessing the larger consciousness system. Tune in for a deep and thoughtful conversation on the ways trauma can shape spiritual and intuitive development.