Over the course of a couple of months, Fred and I spent a lot of time writing back and forth about mystery and uncertainty with the intention of bringing that conversation to the podcast. Fred Provenza is well known for his research contributions to the field of livestock nutrition and behavior, but this conversation goes beyond that and into the great unknown. Fred is, at his heart, teacher and student both, sharing his curiosity as ‘a cosmic voyager’ here on earth. Through that lens, we explore cultivating a childlike sense of wonder at the interconnectedness of life and all the ‘whys’. We talk about finding and embracing who you are - and supporting it as parents and teachers. Fred shares about how illness changed his outlook and brought him, for a time, to a space of oneness. Ultimately, the conversation is about the uncertainty and transitory nature of life. It is wide-ranging and, I hope, heartwarming. 

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Nourishment by Fred Provenza

Timestamps:

00:00:00: Kate shares about getting back on the wagon post hiatus

00:11:30: Fred and Kate drop right into the deep end 

00:16:45: Finding a childlike sense of wonder 

00:27:57: Everything is interconnected, on a continuum

00:42:31: We are participators, boundaries are arbitrary, relationships matter

01:02:43: Seeing connections looking backward on life

01:11:45: Animal teachers - behavior, parenting, and beyond

01:20:27: We are part of ‘place’

01:27:57: Finding oneness through illness

01:44:42: Cultivating conversation and a new educational paradigm

01:51:34: Be who you are and nurture that in children

02:07:00: Embracing uncertainty

02:15:55: Everything is transitory

Books:

The Fifth Discipline by Peter Senge

Dying to Be Me by Anita Moorjani

Power of Now by Eckharte Tolle

The Experience of Nothingness by Nisargadatta Maharaj

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