This is a fascinating discussion with Maj. Danny Sjursen on what the concept of patriotism should be, as well as a deep-dive explanation on what the military-industrial complex is.

Maj. Sjursen is a combat veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan, a West Point military-historian, author, speaker, and now prominent anti-war activist. He talks about his experiences in Iraq, as well as about his new book "Patriotic Dissent," which re-examines what the concept of patriotism should be in a modern America of never-ending warfare.

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Interview begins at 7:24

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