Under The Gloss with Phoebe Burgess

“F*** labels”: Sam Smith changed Deni Todorovič’s life


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Activist and author Deni Todorovič was turned down by four cabs because they were wearing heels and a mini skirt. That didn’t happen overseas – it happened right here in Australia, in 2023. On today’s episode of Under The Gloss, Deni joins Phoebe to chat about how they always felt innately different, why we’ve been conditioned to fear the queer community, the power of visibility and why being trans is so much more than a pronoun.

Connect with Deni @StyleByDeni

See all the stars of Vogue’s special Pride issue here - https://www.vogue.com.au/culture/pride/all-together-now-meet-the-stars-of-vogue-australias-2023-pride-issue/image-gallery/df557f49329549b9fcf5a273491b8e6c 

If this episode raised any issues for you or those in your life, please reach out to QLife - https://qlife.org.au/. You can also reach out to Headspace, ReachOut and Beyond Blue.

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