For the fourth episode of the For A Better Football podcast mini-series, SD Europe's Luke Cox is joined by Malmo FF CEO Niclas Carlnen and 1. FSV Mainz 05 Director Jan Lehmann.

Both offer an insight into the running of professional member-run football clubs competing in the top divisions in their respective countries. 

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SD Europe’s 'For A Better Football' podcast mini-series of podcasts features guests from a variety of football stakeholders about their experiences of the last 8 months enduring a pandemic and the need for reforms in football. As the name suggests, it’s about decanting the ideas of the participating stakeholders to understand what lessons have been learnt to make football better for all. Active in over 50 countries across Europe, Africa and Asia, SD Europe represents grassroots and national supporters organisations, as well as amateur and professional member-run football clubs, in addition to working with national associations and professional leagues.