In collaboration with our partners at Columbia University, the Europe Desk sat down with Michael O’Hanlon, a senior fellow and director of research at the Brookings Institution as well as Yevhen Fedchenko, the chief editor and co-founder of Ukrainian fact-checking website StopFake.org. In this expansive conversation, the Europe Desk and our guests discuss the war on the ground, the future of western investment in the region, the tactical use of Russian disinformation and the means to counter it, the role of Russian citizens, personal anecdotes from the war, and the future of Ukraine.

The Europe Desk is a podcast from the BMW Center for German and European Studies at Georgetown University in Washington, DC. It brings together leading experts working on the most pertinent issues facing Europe and transatlantic relations today.

Music: Sam Kyzivat and Breakmaster Cylinder

Design: Sarah Diebboll

Leadership: Hailey Ordal, Josephine Sylvestre

Production: Sophie al Mutawaly, Katherine Yusko, Andreea Propocan, Michael Kaether, Mason Kane

Communications: Sophie al Mutawaly